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Sunday, December 02, 2012

OBAMA DOESN'T WANT TO BARGAIN? REPUBS SHOULD CALL HIS BLUFF!

So, now the left and the right are slugging it out over the “fiscal cliff”.

President Obama and a good chunk of Democrats want to raise taxes on the nation’s highest earners even though the increase wouldn't amount to a hill of beans. Though the president says he also wants to have a conversation about reforming entitlements, he hasn’t put any type of proposal on paper. Nor is the president or his party interested in serious spending cuts, aside from cuts to the Department of Defense, something Republicans argue would hurt our national security muscle in a time when we need it the most.  Charles Krauthammer says it all with “Robert E. Lee was offered easier terms at Appomattox, and he lost the Civil War.” 

At the same time, Republicans have put forth plans to tackle the biggest driver of our debt—entitlements—and even had a presidential ticket that ran on those reforms. The House of Representatives has passed some version of these plans and Speaker John Boehner has adopted a Mitt Romney idea to eliminate certain deductions in order to raise revenue to pay down our debt. Raising taxes, however—on anyone—is not an option, they say. Unless one side caves, we’re slated to dive off the so-called "cliff" in December.

So why don’t Republicans just get out of the way and let it happen? It sounds crazy, but there is a case to be made.

Let Democrats bring a bill to increase spending on what Obama calls a second stimulus, raise taxes on high earners (including many small businesses) without doing a thing to fix Medicare and Social Security for current and future generations. Republicans can take a page of Obama’s playbook and vote present as he did when he was a senator. When the nation falls off the fiscal cliff, he can own it.

The tax increases that happen will be the Obama tax increases. When spending spikes, it can be the Obama tax and spend plan. And if we slide into recession with 9% unemployment and millions more out of work, as the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) predicts will happen, it will be the Obama recession. In other words, it's time for the right to call Obama's bluff.  Is he so hard headed as to risk his legacy because of his bloated ego?

Many who voted for Obama, especially low income people, would be hit the hardest.  A single unemployed person making $10,000 per year would see a tax hike of 55.2%.  An average married couple making $20,000 to $30,000 per year would see their taxes go from a $15 refund to paying $1,408.

If a majority of the country elected Obama to four more years in the White House, then let them have it their way without GOP support.  Perhaps our nation needs to dive off the cliff in order to realize how dire our debt problem really is.  Then maybe they'll support real change.

Plus, Republicans will get blamed anyway and probably get swept in 2014. The president’s current public relations tour across country on the fiscal cliff is designed for that exact purpose. It’s much easier than leading.

So, when January 2 arrives bringing whatever changes it may bring, Obama has plans to be in Hawaii vacationing for three weeks at a cost to taxpayers of $4 million.  This will be interesting.

Portions of the above courtesy of Andrea Tantaros

152 comments:

Rick Kepple said...

Hi Jimmy. I don't know how to tell you this, but the Republicans don't have any intention of actually doing anything. They'll just pretend to object, but the New World Order helps the GOP more than it helps the Democrats.

The people will be pacified with Food Stamps, Welfare, about any firearm they wish to buy, legal marijuana, medical marijuana, and many liberal freedoms. The government keeps people happy in their poverty.

The rich get the stock market at all time highs and they aren't going to do anything. Rich people with money don't revote. Sorry, not gonna happen, Jimmy. The best way to beat the rich is to deregulate and let them make as much money as humanly possible. They'll be so busy making bucks that they won't care. Not really.

Jimmy, are you going to throw away everything to mount your steed and lead everyone into battle? Not hardly. You might finance it and infuriate younger men to fight your wars, but I don't think you'd do that either.

The Muslim Brotherhood could never have gotten where they are in the world without help, Jimmy. If you funded those GOP groups, you are helping to collapse the Middle East to make sure that America owns all the oil by 2025.

Obama is probably being used by wealthy people who gave money to both Romney and the President. They never lose, Jimmy.

In the end, they'll use me, you, they'll convince kids to fight their wars and the chessboard will go on just as it has for thousands of years.

So what's the end game?

If the G20 has their way and creates the global governance by 2025, whomever wins in 2024, just might rule the world. That's some serious incentive, Jimmy.

All this started after 9/11. The rich were attacked on their home turf and now, the global population must be controlled and they're using the rich to do it. Make the rich so wealthy that they can hire everyone in the world or put them on some kind of state funded income. Give the people what they want.

Sure, a lot of people talk leaving America, but I've not seen anyone do it yet. Except Bodo. I guess he's got more guts than all of you!

sam said...

1. Repeal the 17th Amendment ...return power and autonomy to the States
2. Clarify the 14th..solve the preponderance of our illegal alien problem, being born here of an illegal alien.
3. Return ALL aliens lacking legal documents to remain here, to their home country..for children born in the US, under the age of consent, they return with their parents, or remain with legal residents in the US who have legal signed custody from their parents. On their 18th birthday, should they remain with their parents, they would have the option to decline US citizenship.
4."All this--" did NOT start after 9/ll, as stated by Rick K.....It actually started (with any really serious affect) around the time of Lincoln...with his application of central government power to deny various States' Rights...including their questionable right of recession...in favor of an all-powerful central government. It was exacerbated under Garfield, Wilson, and FDR with their expansion of an all-powerful central government. and the institution of federal taxex and excessive regulations against both the State and individual citizens.

Our problems will not recede until the voters wake up and return autonomy to the individual States, and remove (not reduce) most existing federal powers and return the US to a Republic limited by our Constitution.
I do not see any of this happening, and I do not see the US remaining as the "City on the Hill" or continuing to have a positive influence on the world for any significant length of time.
The current problems identified and discussed as over-spending and (over-under)taxation are little more than wisps of smoke from the fire hidden by the shroud which both the ignorant and the ill-informed refuse to move aside.
The inferno of excessive government is barely contained, and unless immediately recognized and doused, will engulf not just the US, but the world. We are on the brink, IMHO and we are the only nation which has the world authority and the trust to act....but we are only a tick away

midnightsstaff said...

Great post sam.
Sadly I also agree with your doubting there being any likely hood of true reform happening peacefully.
I added that part because I really think we have crossed the Rubicon on that one decades ago with FDR..

The intentional growing of government along with a Keynesian inspired mismanagement of resources has finally given us that out of control leviathan we were warned of.
All that's left is to finally admit to ourselves that voting our way out of the problems we now face is no longer an option.

Especially in a balkanized republic with a controlling marxist minority that has spent the past five decades intentionally dumbing down and conditioning the general population.

we now have a nation of Ricks, Homers and Marges..

No.. the ballot box probably won't do it this time.

midnightsstaff said...

Sorry to have gone off on a tangent, it's so unlike me.

At this point I really don't give a damn if all of them go to the Barney Frank bath house, play with each other and let Barry do the whole thing and call them to let them know how it went.

I am much more inclined to believe that something that has happened before probably will happen again over something that has never happened happening this time.

The Republicans might as well concede now and wait for the terms of surrender..
Led by "Crying John" I doubt much hard nosed negotiations will be done, this is Kabuaki theater and if it weren't such a tragedy it would be great sport.

You can't negotiate with pathological liars and thieves, you have to beat them.

It doesn't matter anyway.. you can call a dead parrot just sleeping but the damn parrot is indeed dead!

Show me the last time a wealth transfer inspired pogram worked to the benefit of anyone or without a lot of civil rights being violated.

At this point the only thing the junior varsity can do is make sure they are not involved and the American public knows who brought them this nightmare.

midnightsstaff said...

Pardon me but I ran across a great short article that pretty much wraps it up for we who actually lived through the 60's
It's called "Reality has consequences"

http://www.economicnoise.com/2012/12/02/reality-has-consequences-2/

.."The world no longer makes sense to most people over forty years of age. Much of what we thought was true is now denied. What to us is obviously false (or at least always was) is now accepted as being true. Here are examples from Frick at Bias Breakdown that show obvious contradictions between popular belief and what we hold as reality:

If every Arab in the Middle East laid down his weapon, there would be peace in the Middle East. If every Israeli laid down his (or her) weapon, Israel would be annihilated.

Likewise, if government stopped all spending, the deficit problem would be solved. If government confiscated the gross annual income of every individual in the country making over $66,193, the deficit would destroy our country.

In a sane world, politicians would cut every last dollar of government spending they could in order to bring financial order back to an entitlement-happy society. After government’s debilitating spending habits were slashed or restructured, only then would the conversation shift to taxes and revenue to make up the gap.

Of course, this isn’t a sane world. It’s the world in which it’s Israel’s fault for every ill in Palestine and Republicans are evil and stupid for wanting to cut spending.

Fantasies like these might are satisfying to many, but they are ultimately destructive. Truth cannot be changed by repeating falsehoods. Nor can it be altered by more people believing untruths. But, when these fantasizers overwhelm society with their false beliefs, society will no longer function.
Society cannot invent its own truth based on convenience, prejudice or popularity. Truth, not manufactured myth, is key to survival.
Societies which deviate from it, don’t survive.

As Ayn Rand stated: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"

The avoidance of reality has overtaken our society. The consequences of doing so have been building for decades and will soon overwhelm us. On our current path, much of what we knew and cared about will be destroyed"

How many of these people negotiating our future do you think has any intention of doing the rational thing?

Mike Slater said...

Jim, I'm with you. Lets drive over the cliff and let Obama own it.

This talk about raising taxes and cutting spending is a myth. Reagan and Bush 1 fell for that trick. taxes were raised but spending was never cut.

Obama's plan is to raise taxes with some vague promise to look a spending cuts in the future, which we all know will never happen.

Middy's right, the ballot box isn't going to change things anymore.

As Thomas Jefferson said,"The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." It seems that time has come.

Rick Kepple said...

"we now have a nation of Ricks, Homers and Marges.."

Not yet, Middy, but one guitar at a time. As the trend spreads with my wisdom, the nation will transform into a truly free market system. We won't have any need for the investors anymore.

George W. Bush introduced socialism and the Republicans are usually right about these things.

Seriously though, Middy, you are never going to convince voters on Food Stamps, Welfare, Disability and Veterans Compensation/Pensions to agree with you, when you're calling them lazy.

That's why Romney lost. Hey, go get some hot chick and maybe she'll win as a GOP President!

midnightsstaff said...

I really don't care to convince any of the freeshitarmy volunteers to start thinking rationally.. it's a waste of time.
.."never try to teach a pig to sing, it waste's your time and annoys the pig"

That's what reality is for Rick.. to instruct those who cannot learn from reason.
And reality is no longer at the door, reality is inside with a few of his friends waiting by the dinner table.
Mary Christmas..

.."The only guarantee of the Bill of Rights which continues to have any force and effect is the one prohibiting quartering troops on citizens in time of peace. All the rest have been disposed of by judicial interpretation and legislative whittling. Probably the worst thing that has happened in America in my time is the decay of confidence in the courts. No one can be sure any more that in a given case they will uphold the plainest mandate of the Constitution. On the contrary, everyone begins to be more or less convinced in advance that they won't. Judges are chosen not because they know the Constitution and are in favor of it, but precisely because they appear to be against it- every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under"
HLM.

sam said...

Washington DC has a law, legally applicable only in DC, which provides for any voter in DC to challenge any candidate for qualification for office.

A guy has filed under this law, challenging Obama qualifications for the Presidency.

He has asked for official observation and certification of birth certificate, all educational documents and certificates, and verification of Social Security and other documentation.

We may yet get some verification of his various records and quals.
But, I...for one...refuse to hold my breath, and no hopes raised.............yet.

midnightsstaff said...

These people have proved that they view the law inferior to political agenda, he will just ignore it or deem it under investigation so he can't discuss the matter.

We'll get Eric Holder right on it.

Really sam, there is not one aspect of government that is not entirely corrupt.
every dept. has a price tag on it and is dedicated to sheer hedonistic opportunism.
A Department of Business?- are you freaking kidding me?- what's going to be that mission, to hold business up by the ankles and shake them vigorously?

Unemployment next month.. 5.6
take it to the bank Morrie..

midnightsstaff said...

I notice a major hospital in Brooklyn is declaring bankruptcy.. I will be surprised if a lot of hospitals don't have to do likewise once the new pogram is completely installed.

Will Obama be tempted to nationalize the nation's hospitals to go along with nationalizing the healthcare industry?
na... that's crazy talk- that sounds like something a dictator would do.

proud said...

Face it....Republicans got played,...big time!

They should have gone along with raising taxes on upper incomes (possibly changing the threshold to $500K) from the get go.

Not doing so allowed Obama to liberally paint them with the same old, "only in it for the rich", class envy brush, that has painted many a Democrat victory .

They were then, and continue to be, stupid, naive and all too predictable. They keep placing themselves in no-win boxes, allowing Obama to come off looking like the champion of all the middle class. A class, who, by the way, doesn't give two craps about the constitution, federal overspending or the size of some mythical, unimaginable, deficit, but cares deeply that "justice" is metered out to those rich bastards that have got where they are "on the backs of the poor".

Republicans standing on principal in a society that has absolutely no regard for same, is not a winning....Yet there they go! strategy...

midnightsstaff said...

How long do you think we can maintain the veneer of civility once the real pain begins?
It will be real pain all across the nation once it starts unwinding and by now people have had years to find out what their neighbors are thinking.

I see people especially the tribal types much differently than I did just a few years ago, as do most reasonable people- gang mentality is gang mentality.

When a whole race is reported to have voted in ranges around the mid nineties and other groups seen to be equally irrational like unmarried women for instance should we feel compassion for individual people in those groups who have just knowingly destroyed the Constitution?

Ignorance is no excuse in a nation based on law, but can we call it ignorance? Na.. that is a smokescreen, what this election represented was a stupid once in a lifetime choice to continue institutional theft and lawlessness by worthless parasites.

Inmates generally agree even that there is good reason in society to take someone out but never a good excuse to steal from each other, so they simple steal from those outside their collective or if you prefer, their gang.

We used to hang horse thieves in our territories because it is impractical to bring that property inside to guard all night, maybe that is the attitude to adopt today- and it will be individual states that do it.

The freeshitarmy is irredeemable in my opinion and can not be dealt with compassionately - but they have to be dealt with.

Better get ready and stock up on essentials like ammo because eventually 9-11 will be either disconnected or overwhelmed sometime in the near future.

midnightsstaff said...

So where do we start John?- try to fix the Republican party despite the fact they will fight us tooth and nail or try to secede and start a Constitutional Party or something like that?

Seems to me like either of those option's window of opportunity closed in 1988 or so..

Battle is the great equalizer but not all on the battlefield are equal as to their indispensable nature to waging war.
My uncle John and George Patton both fought in the European theater, but that is where the similarities end.

No leadership- that's a problem, we have a lot of uncle Johns running around but no Patton.

Not being cute, I actually had an uncle John that spent time in a German concentration camp and he never recovered- he just came to mind.

proud said...

I don't think the Republican party is any more fixable than the Democrats. Any real 'fix' has to originate within our culture, and so far Republicans are managing to completely loose the battle for that culture.

They have to WIN elections if they are ever to be in a position to effect change.

Republicans telling people what they DO NOT want to hear, even if it is the truth, is a losing,(as illustrated in the last election), proposition. They need to take a hard look at today's consumer (voter) and how they are packaging and merchandising themselves....and make wholesale changes....(or loose)

midnightsstaff said...

Well, if there is one thing they are good at it's losing.
..another thing they are good at is lying to themselves- they are nearly as good at it as the Communists.

.."Democratic man, dreaming eternally of Utopias, is ever a prey to endless shibboleths"
HLM.

..all bets are off since Nov 7, each man is officially on his own.

midnightsstaff said...

The usual media apologists are trying to explain this one away..
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/20236053/2012/12/1/suspect-arrested-in-connection-to-social-security-explosion

I told you that experience I had at the SS office last week was not out of the pages of The Americana I know.

Jim McAllister said...

Rick,

Did you say that Bodo has left America?!!!

Wow! You know how to save the best for last! You had me depressed with your comments until you mentioned that.

My only question is: What country in their right mind would accept him?

Jim McAllister said...

Sam,

Good post.

"Our problems will not recede until the voters wake up and return autonomy to the individual States, and remove (not reduce) most existing federal powers and return the US to a Republic limited by our Constitution."

I agree. Obama is a good example of what happens with the Feds getting too much power. He has over powered and exemplified the importance of state's rights.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Thus, the importance of not caving to King Barack.

The Repubs need to step it up even if it means taking some blame.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Both parties have their share of screwing up so the elections have just become a revolving door between parties.

Look at the elections between 1900 and now. Each party made their campaign promises sound great. Then, when elected, the voters found that both of them are full of sh-t and put the other party back in hoping they could do better if given another chance. It's just a constant rotation of lies.

1900: Reps...1912: Dems, then: R,D,R,D,R,D,R,D,R,D.

AHiredGun said...

Guys, please. You spent the last 4 years whining about Obama; it's time to stop whining and get the GOP begin to work with the President. If not, the GOP will probably lose even worse in 2014 and 2016. (I just read today Hillary is seriously considering a run at the Presidency).

Its funny some of you talk about Lincoln. The following is a link on a story about the "American System" and how Lincoln supported it, to the chagrin of Democrats.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/02/1165968/-The-American-System?showAll=yes

Please do not disregard it because it came from the Daily Kos. It is compelling reading. The strange thing is that if I would have been alive during Lincoln's time, I would have been a Republican (just as I would have been ashamed to be a Dixiecrat in the 20th Century). Ironic, how the parties appear to have switched names.

Sam, what you espouse is a pipe dream and will never happen. Mike, be careful what you wish for, you may get it. Another Civil War could come and I believe you would be on the losing side of that one too. History continues to change the USA; you can get on the train and ride forward to the future or be left behind. Right now, the GOP is hell bent and determined to be left behind, and the Tea Party hasn't even made it to the station yet!

Finally, you guys may wish to consider not getting all your news from Fox anymore; maybe then you would have realized that Romney was not going to win the election.

Jim McAllister said...

Ayn Rand nailed it....

Entitlements have gotten to the point where new generations depend on them for a lifetime and see no evil or shame in doing that. How else should they feel when they see two or three generations enjoying the "no work" lifestyle?

I remember when people would only take welfare as a last resort because they had the sense of a work ethic.

Now they demand it and expect a free Obamaphone as a gift besides.

And......they are getting it and feeling no shame!!

Jim McAllister said...

Mike,

If the Repubs believe the lies from Obama about looking at spending cuts later, they are dumber than we thought.

The federal government has gotten way too big. Sam is right, much of what the fed does should be under state control. Never has the old joke about "Close enough for government work" ever been more true than now.

We have a president who is a perfect example of the Peter Principle. Unfortunately, the dummies who voted him in with his promised trinkets for everyone may have realized that he reached his level of incompetency long ago and now it's too late to change.

A good example is his recent trip to Thailand where he didn't even take the time to learn the customs and habits of those people. He made an ass of himself and embarrassed our country. It's no
wonder he was recognized as a servant when he left.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

I wish Mencken was still around to chide these clowns.

Obama would probably shut him and "The Baltimore Sun" down when he read what all tyrants hate to hear.

Jim McAllister said...

Sam,

I admire the guy for trying but nothing will happen except maybe the guy might find something.

That wouldn't help either as I am sure he would suddenly and magically disappear from the face of the earth.

Jim McAllister said...

proud,

Unfortunately, what you say is true.

However, in spite of the outcome, the Reps need to obtain a backbone and not give in to this guy. Otherwise the proverbial snowball could happen where they cave to everything.

It may cost them now but remember, half the country dislikes this guy and sliding over the cliff may make some of the ones who voted for him see what an amateur he really is.

The poor and middle class have always despised those who are rich and successful. They don't realize that a lot of those people worked their asses off and took chances to get where they are. Somehow the Reps need to get that point across.

Every chart there is shows that the rich pay way more than anyone on taxes plus Obama's plan for those over $250M is just ignorant and will not generate enough money to matter. He is just trying to make a point; a weak one at that.

Now, if the Reps can get the cuts they want by giving a little on taxes (possibly 500M as you suggested to appease the guy), that may work. However, Obama is not offering anything and says he will do some cuts later.

What a bunch of bullshit that is. If the Reps fall for that lie, they deserve what they get.

Underhand softball is over. It's time to get out the hardballs and the Louisville Sluggers.

Jim McAllister said...

"When a whole race is reported to have voted in ranges around the mid nineties and other groups seen to be equally irrational like unmarried women for instance should we feel compassion for individual people in those groups who have just knowingly destroyed the Constitution?"

That nails it good!

I've never seen such a crooked election. Some precincts had Obama's mural on the wall. Others showed thousands of votes for Obama and ZERO for Romney. How phony is that and amateurish too.

In Ohio, one precinct had 98,000 registered voters and 108,000 votes.

The UN observers were even shocked that in the US no voter ID is needed.

I'm surprised the elections was as close as it was. Even with cheating, half the copuntry still hates Obama

midnightsstaff said...

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_22100715/editorial-is-fort-lyon-plan-worth-price

Colorado is considering sprucing up an abandoned prison as a halfway house for their homeless..
once that idea is sold and the population becomes comfortable with it, the mandatory round up phase can begin.

The ovenbuilders and trench diggers union reportedly are fully behind the project.

Jim McAllister said...

AHG,

I take it you received by mail from me your filthy lucre! LOL Forty bucks for the slot machines!

You are a bright, educated guy. What are the main programs and philosophies of Obama that you think are helpful to this country.

For example, do you believe in bleeding the rich to increase the deliverance of entitlement programs?

Even though the rich pay the largest percentaqe of taxes, do you think they should pay more? If so, why?

Just wonderin'

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

If they run out of prison space, maybe they can get some of those shipping containers from Detroit to use as an annex.

It's true about the union support but it is contingent upon them getting a raise and more benefits.

midnightsstaff said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=weWnBsHdegE

miss me yet?

midnightsstaff said...

.."It's true about the union support but it is contingent upon them getting a raise and more benefits"

haha. Jim evidently that one got by you.
Ovenbuilders and grave diggers?

monday.

proud said...

Jim...idiot Reps should have made a deal early on, they should have known that their stance on NO tax increases would be spun to demonize them as being nothing more than puppets of the rich, haters of the little guy, after all it's been done many times before.

Instead of digging in and as you say not caving, they could have taken advantage of existing bipartisan support that was there(Dems in NY, CA and a couple other states)to increase the threshold to $500K or $1M. In my view they were played and it cost them the election. Sticking to their guns now, and not caving is, in my view, akin to "winning the battle, but losing the war"

The so called fiscal cliff is ridiculous, IF Republicans went along with the proposed increase it wouldn't be the end of the world, worst case would result in the already slow economic recovery slowing down, and possibly slipping into a double dip....that would then be all on Obama and the Dems, it would be their stink to own, after all Republicans, reluctantly, went along with their President....as it stands now, if they stand there ground as you suggest, I guaranty you the Republicans will be seen as the bad-guys, and bear the brunt of the blame, not Obama...

Meanwhile everyone in America is being played (again)

while Obama mops the floor with rich loving, middle class-hating, Republicans over some stupid hyped up "cliff".....Nobody is doing anything to solve the gigantic fiscal problem that is in fact (fiscally speaking) THE END OF THE / OUR WORLD, that being:

Entitlement reform!

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

No, I caught that one about the oven builders and grave diggers.

After all these years, I have learned a lot about your subtleties. LOL

Jim McAllister said...

proud,

Good points but as dumb as the Reps are, maybe they will repent at the last moment and say it's a mistake but we want to do our best to stem the tide.

Then, when the poop hits the fan anyway, they can say, "Well, we gave in on the tax increase on the rich but told him this would happen so don't blame us."

Or as you said, "IF Republicans went along with the proposed increase it wouldn't be the end of the world, worst case would result in the already slow economic recovery slowing down, and possibly slipping into a double dip....that would then be all on Obama and the Dems, it would be their stink to own, after all Republicans, reluctantly, went along with their President..."

Another question: Obama is not offering any tax cuts. Don't you think the Reps should stand firm on that to avoid the dreaded "caving in"? They have to get something!

I would NEVER trust Obama to deliver on those future cuts once he has proven his point on the tax increase. He isn't that honest.

There are so many variables here. I don't see how we could not slip into a deeper recession with the increases as he will be taking investment money from so many smaller businesses. No one will be spending money on expansion for fear of even MORE tax increases later.

Help!

Steve/DG said...

Anyone else besides me find AHG's comments humorous lambasting anyone reading Fox (Faux) News but then post from the Daily Kos, which is arguably the farthest left propaganda periodical out there?

Unfortunately Jim, I don't want to go off this cliff. Small businesses and many people will be hurt by it, and if you think Obama and his merry band of brain dead Liberals will every blame Him for anything, you're only fooling yourself.

midnightsstaff said...

Well then Steve I suggest you put your faith in someone other than the Republicans..

Our discussing the matter is as inconsequential as discussing the weather- ever heard the word kismet? this is one of those moments.

John if you think the fiscal cliff is not real take a look at the debt clock and the amount of cuts being made- the cliff may be an illusion but the fall involved is certainly not.

.."Guys, please. You spent the last 4 years whining about Obama; it's time to stop whining and get the GOP begin to work with the President"

Yeah these ridiculous pleas for us to rally behind an evil chancellor and a call to unify are laughable..

You won Joe, now deal with the fall out- what you are doing is seeding the storm clouds of a civil war.
I believe our future will resemble a much larger version of the "troubles" in Ireland of the seventies rather than what you are thinking it will be, just a bad weekend and a quick resolution.

nope, this is a fundamental issue, if you don't believe me, how do you explain the gun and ammo sales?

sam said...

Although I tend to agree with most of the comments here, the most important issue is not being addressed here even as it is a common topic on nearly every liberal site......EDUCATION ! ! !

The liberals gained nearly total control of our education system in the 1960s and 1970s, and have either eliminated or modified curriculums on government, world politics, the American Constitution, American history, to the point that they barely relate to documented truths and intent of our founders, and they often are unwilling...or unable...to accurately and honestly teach our political and social founding and our guided drifting away from our founding principles . We have fallen to previously unacceptable levels in nearly every educational subject, with most of the world now bettering us across the educational board, and we are growing that separation every year.
At every level of our education system, and with rare exception, our teachers (and administrators) express more interest and expend more energy into reducing their "responsibilities" and increasing their benefits while vehemently denying their failure to adequately educate our children.
"Obama's stash" is not an accident or misunderstanding....it is a deliberately taught concept.

midnightsstaff said...

We are recognizing it when we complain about low information voters sam, we have a multi generational problem and it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

I hate to get all dystrophic on the issue but when Joe accuses me of both being a Republican and getting my information from Fox news I have to discount him as a highly opinionated, low information voter.

For example, please explain to me what happened on Sept 11 2012 in Bengazi Joe..

Sadly sam, he doesn't know precisely because he doesn't want to know..
And that is one problem education cannot remedy.

My dad told me you can paper a horses ass but all you get is an expensive, ordinary horse with an attitude.

Rick Kepple said...

Hi, Drama Queen here.

I had another blood test today and again (without the pills) no diabetes, liver enzymes are below maximum level (means healing) and I'm healthier. I got my medical report from my last visit with the doc and she and a nurse are trying to make me look like I'm nuts. The woman actually wrote down classified information that I said while under the influence of hydrocodone! She's trying to make me look like I'm nuts, because I won't die on command.

I read a story in a medical journal that said drugs are being used on trial, like one of mine, such as a child's seizure drug that also works on adult cholesterol, but so many of those have dangerous side effects, like sucidal behavior.

In the report, she even says that she explained the danger of organ failure to me, thereby relieving the VA and herself of all responsibility.

It includes a report of a paragraph that I refused to pee in a bottle in 2006.

So yeah, I'm moving out of state where I can freely use herbal medications, because I believe the VA is trying to kill military veterans with drug side effects. I got a report that looks a bit suspicious and thank God for those foreign doctors for telling the truth!

I could have never gotten an American doctor to say in writing that they knew I had liver damage and still prescribed drugs that would cause organ failure. She writes good notes.

Rick Kepple said...

"Colorado is considering sprucing up an abandoned prison as a halfway house for their homeless..
once that idea is sold and the population becomes comfortable with it, the mandatory round up phase can begin."

It will be an easy sell, Middy. Something has got to be done for those poor starving people! They'll take photos of little girl's faces smudged with a tiny bit of dirt and then a year later, same little girl all spiffed up and holding a gold star with pride!

And to make them feel as if they belong to something important, they can wear nifty uniforms! The goose stepping is good exercise and all of Hollywood is starting to create goose stepping studios, like pole dancing.

Yep. Make living in a prison just down right lovely! Three hots and a cot! Education, including the songs about Obama. (here pop these pills! Take these injections!)

It's not reeducation camps. It's just doing the right thing, they'll say. It's the Christian thing. Islam can pay for it.

midnightsstaff said...

What ever you do resist the man Rick!..

..question tho, was it the hydrocodone that classified what you were saying or vice versa- or did I miss something?

I would forget the herbal medications and go directly to the devil weed itself..
yep, you don't want to mess around with inferior substitutes- it's cannibus or bust.
try Clownafornia.. you would fit right in.
Watch "Reefer Madness", it's a great information source on the subject.

speaking of herbs tho.. I bought myself a new batch of herbs in containers on a lazy susan at Costco last Spring, I am really getting in to using herbs and spices with my one pot wonders..
I made spaghetti a week ago that you just couldn't believe.
amazing what a little fennel, rosemary, basil can do, I guess it's why they call nice things the spice of life.

But Rick.. no don't grab a packet of sage and roll one up, get the real thing this time.
and stay away from the window a couple more days to be safe.

proud said...

Rick...that nurse was simply trying to point out the obvious.....You're as nutty as a frickin FRUIT CAKE..

You are the only one on the planet that doesn't get it..... (of course, that's prolly cause you're NUTS)

Mike Slater said...

Rick, you don't need anyone to make you look like you're nuts. Your are nuts. That's plain for anyone to see.

Jim, I see where Bob Costas shot his mouth off about the KC football player that killed his girlfriend and then himself and blames the gun and lack of gun control. When are these loony leftist going to realize it's not the gun, it's the crazy people using the gun that's the problem.

The KC reporter named Jason Whitlock says the NRA is the new KKK and blames them for arming black youghs and spreading drugs in the black community.

What a crock of BS. The NRA doesn't sell guns or drugs.

midnightsstaff said...

If Clownafornia had tighter gun rules Denice Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman would still be alive.

Mike Slater said...

If Clownifornia would have had tighter knife laws Denice Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman would still be alive.

Rick Kepple said...

"try Clownafornia.. you would fit right in."

I know that John McCain can be trusted. I don't know about those California legislators. They got a mosque right in Beverly Hills.

In 1986, some Muslims killed an American in a wheelchair and tossed him overboard like a sack of trash.

I should have that fricking VA doctor deported, but she did me a favor. No American doctor would have ever written down the things that I said. The next time, I'll say precisely what I want her to write down. I'm thinking some classified operation that was wrong and no one is supposed to know and not even me is stupid enough to put it in print. How fast can a foreign doctor be deported?

A friend of mine spills his concerns from covert missions to an Iranian shrink at the VA. They got this TV monitor with the doctor's face and veterans talk to the TV of the Iranian shrink who is probably in Tehran and the VA outsourced some American shrink's job.

A veteran friend who was deep into many battles, told me to write a book about what really happened during the Cold War. Is anyone still breathing who wrote a tell-all of the Cold War? Well, he sings about his experiences and it helps him. He told me to write about my experiences. It sounds like SN talking. He's right though. Americans should know, but it might cause more harm than good. And it's all very classified.

The young vets want me to write about what I know, cause they're pissed since there's a mosque going in where two buildings used to stand and their friends died avenging that.

Our government has done some seriously dirty tricks to preserve this nation and then we let Islam waltz right in and we're supposed to follow "international law" and it supercedes American law.

Mike and Proud probably work for Obama spreading misinformation and doubt. Counterparts of Mike and Proud are found in the KKK and even the Black Panthers. They keep all the shit stirred.

Rick Kepple said...

If a military veteran just blindly allows the VA to treat them and do not get doctors reports and lab results, doesn't get second opinions, doesn't verify medical opinions and believes everything that a foreign doctor tells the American military veteran, then that veteran wants to die.

They want to model Obamacare after the VA.

Honest Jimmy, the artificial heroin won't hurt you! It's being used to treat your medical problem! If it doesn't work, just pop another one. Some people build up a tolerance to it, so you'll have to take more. Don't worry, Jimmy! says your government doctor with a smile.

midnightsstaff said...

Let's see Bob Costas comment the next time some muslim piece of shit blows up some pre school or bus in Tel Aviv..
let's just see how committed he is to mouthing off on air over that.

Was that stupidity his idea or was it NBC making him do it?

It seems ok for leftist bilge about gun control to cross over into sports but when's the last time you heard anyone criticizing these lowlifes behavior off the field?
How about pointing out the obvious gang affiliations these part time criminals that are all over the NFL and NBA?
Do you think that Ray Lewis is a good role model for kids in Baltimore?
How about widespread steroids use in the NFL.. do you think these guys are not using steriods?
This is just more political crap that is pushing me and a lot of others away from professional sports.

midnightsstaff said...

very strange action on the street today, Dow is up, Nasdaq is down and gold is being manipulated down as well..

Apple seems to be the culprit again (but being 20+percent of the Nasdaq it figures)

Lots of confusion.
In other words a normal trading day in the new normal.
Instability is the fundamental influence in a broken market.

It appears that market instability is another Obama created reality we will suffer for another decade or so.

midnightsstaff said...

Ok.. don't wanna talk about that. then how about those death panels that fools criticized Sarah Palin for pointing out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9654324/Liverpool-Care-Pathway-minister-orders-report-into-cash-rewards.html


.."Norman Lamb, the care minister, has asked officials at the Department of Health to look into how and why financial rewards are being linked to targets for the use of the Liverpool Care Pathway.
It follows the disclosures in The Daily Telegraph last week that the majority of acute trusts in England have been receiving payments, totalling millions of pounds, for meeting goals linked to their use of the LCP.
Details released under the Freedom of Information Act suggest that three quarters of trusts use the technique, which involves reducing invasive treatment – potentially including food and fluids – given to people in the final days and hours of their lives.
The returns suggest that between £20 million and £30 million has been paid out in the last two to three years to trusts which have hit targets linked to the use of the LCP.
Mr Lamb said that the payments, which are made by local NHS bodies rather than the Government, could well be ensuring people in terrible pain have a better and more dignified death"

Yes all you fools who think that Obama care is anything other than a time tested method to clear out the elderly and the newborn problem..
they are now leaving newborn's to die by exposure with that taking up to ten days to accomplish in England.

that is your future under communism- cash incentives paid to kill people.

I remember don telling me that if I voted for McCain the nation will end up having an dribbling fool a heartbeat away from the presidency..

..he was right.

Jim McAllister said...

Steve,

I had to roll on the floor laughing for a while too over AHG's Daily Kos comment.

Joe is a nice guy but he has taken the wrong medicine and loves Obama.

It's so obvious what O is up to. He knows that the revenue from raising taxes on the supposed rich won't bring in much money but will excite his loser followers who hate anyone with more ambition than they have.

Jim McAllister said...

Rick,

Glad to hear your blood test was OK. Diabetes always scares the hell out of me and I'm always grateful when my reading is good.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

I love "Reefer Madness" from the late 1930s. Comical stuff compared to today's attitudes.

Jim McAllister said...

Mike,

Costas is pretty good when he talks sports but otherwise is just another whiny liberal always ready to force his 2 cents worth on us just because he has a podium at NBC which allows him a forum. I think he has a chip on his shoulder because he is three feet tall.

Whitlock is a black sports writer for the "Kansas City Star" who is always spouting off his opinion about how simple it would be in life if guns didn't exist.

I love that about liberals; it's all so simple to them. What a bunch of naive idiots they are. They think that people will just get along and there will be no violence if only we would throw away guns. What a fantasy land they live in just like that phony in the White House.

I don't go anywhere without my .38. I have never used it for protection nor have I needed it for the same.

However, it's comforting to have it ready if needed and I feel sorry for anyone who tries to rush my car at a red light. It will be the biggest mistake they ever made.

I love AZ and their gun laws.

midnightsstaff said...

I have a Lieutenant friend who is all over The Rocky Horror Show... I have never watched it..
..probably a good thing- I got enough bad habits.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

"Let's see Bob Costas comment the next time some muslim piece of shit blows up some pre school or bus in Tel Aviv.. let's just see how committed he is to mouthing off on air over that."

Exactly, he mustn't upset the muslim loving president we have. It's getting to a point where i can't stand to even see these people because I have so much disrespect for them and their anti American ideas.

The same goes for Hollywood. I rarely go to movies anymore because I hate those Hollywood phonies like Clooney, Hanks, Baldwin and the rest of their ilk.


"Was that stupidity his idea or was it NBC making him do it?"

I think both. NBC is left of left and Costas is a little twerp who hangs out with the Hollywood types. They are all peas in a pod.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Yeah, the Dow hung around 5-10 plus until the end and finished -13. Could be worse I guess.

I'm keeping an eye on it.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Obamacare is an "Obamanation" that all of his followers deserve.

All the big comnpanies are making moves to work around it and the only ones who will be screwed are the poor working stiffs who fell for Obama's bullshit and voted for him. I hope they enjoy their 28 hour work weeks and scrambling around some damn exchange trying to get insurance.

Kudos to Jan Brewer for taking the exchange responsibility away from AZ and throwing it in the fed's lap.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

I love the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

It came out in 1975 and people would all dress outrageously to see it. That was a big deal then but I wasn't part of that crowd. They used to show it at mid-night in a little dump called the Bijou in Kansas City.

The only bad part is that witch Susan Sarandon is in it.

Tim Curry as Dr. Frank N. Furter deserved an Academy Award for his performance. The music is great too.

midnightsstaff said...

It took the Titanic a long time to finally sink but everyone knew what the outcome would be... just not how long it would take.

Yeah I give her props for taking a stand..
Next year is going to get ugly.

I refuse to let these pantloads play me over this phony debt ceiling horseshit, sorry Steve but there is only one possible ending left- all they are doing is positioning themselves to blame the other.
scared money always loses.

step on it Thelma.

midnightsstaff said...

http://www.deutsche-mittelstands-nachrichten.de/2012/12/48588/

.."For the unemployed in Italy, new possibilities, to get a job.
A supermarket chain is giving away jobs to their customers.

The premise: you have to buy for more than 30 euros, then you get a lottery ticket, which entitled to participate in the Sweepstakes...
Winners of the lottery, get a temporary job part time job as an assistant waiting in the supermarket"

Italy is a bit ahead of us in the new order, now a lotto win is a part time job offer.. think that won't happen here?
it already has.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Ironically, Sarandon was either Thelma or Louise; I forget who played who.

The important thing is she went over the cliff. Unfortunately, it was only a movie.

Jim McAllister said...

I love this statement from Obama:

“What I’ve suggested is, let’s essentially put a down payment. On taxes, let’s let tax rates on the upper-income folks go up,” he said. “And then let’s set up a process with a time certain, at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013, where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deductions both Democrats and Republicans are willing to close, and it’s possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point. And I’m happy to work with them.”

If there is anyone who actually believes that if they give that guy his way NOW that he will later this year discuss anything that would be beneficial to Republicans? LOL

He is the biggest phony on God's Green Earth. When later this year happens I could just see him stuttering with "What? You mean I said that? No way!!"

How about "Well, I would like to help you guys but times have changed and I can't do anything now."

Then there is the message from his little twerp coffee getter Carney: "He'll get back to you."

A down payment, my ass. I can just see him and his crooked crew having a big laugh and saying "Can you believe they actually fell for my bullshit?"

Rick Kepple said...

"Glad to hear your blood test was OK. Diabetes always scares the hell out of me and I'm always grateful when my reading is good."

I showed a health care worker friend that doctor's notes and the blood tests and the employee said to never go back to the VA again, if I want to avoid being institutionalized and drooling on myself.

Yep. Thanks for the service to your country, take these drugs, go and die.

midnightsstaff said...

What are you laughing at?- Cryin' John probably wrote that release for him.

.. the whole thing is as crooked as a dog's hind leg to begin with..
this is supposed to be done last year.
It was put off as to not affect the election... remember?

..It's been how long since the White House has even written a proposal for a budget that hasn't been laughed at by the Senate, and they expect me to hang on every parsed inflection imagined when one of these sewer trouts drops an air biscuit at the dinner table?

give me a break.. we should ----- the lot of them and get people who will do the job- or is that what Blue was referring to as bullying?

she's another soggy newspaper.

Rick Kepple said...

A judge just ruled that Arizona's medical marijuana law does not violate federal law.

So I want a nice abode where I can crank up a huge fricking amp with enough distortion to blow a woman's clothes off! And it should be in a quiet neighborhood too. I need super high speed Internet and I'll have to get a hot housecleaner again. Over 30 please and a nice indoor pool with a whirlpool. Under $400 a month in North Scottsdale.

I don't want much.

Jim McAllister said...

Rick,

I'll look around N. Scottsdale for you and see what I can find in your price range.

Would you like that pool oval or rectangular?

midnightsstaff said...

three ring.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Did you see this. "Say it isn't so, Joe."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-consults-msnbc-hosts-sharpton-maddow-tax-rates_665036.html

Obama is the biggest loser I have ever seen. He's president and he is consulting with "that angry little boy" Maddow and Big Al about taxes?

He needs advice from those two?

midnightsstaff said...

December 4 , 2012

The College of the Redwoods CA - Considers Layoffs
Reebok - 65 at Canton HQ, 150 Worldwide
Ritz-Carlton Club / Spa in Jupiter - Warns of Poss. Layoffs
NewsChannel 9 Syracuse NY - Reports of Poss. Layoffs
Update: SAIC Inc - 700
Geron Corp - 40% of Workforce
Entropic - 40
The University of Texas at Brownsville - Layoffs, No Number
Marlboro school NY - Planning 10 Layoffs
Claxton-Hepburn Medical Center NY - 6 Layoffs
The City of Pottsville PA - 5
Texas Instruments ( India ) - 170
Nokia Siemens Networks ( International ) - 1,000
LG Electronics Mobile ( China ) - Planning Layoffs
British Airways - 400 Mostly Voluntary
St. John's hospitals in Camarillo and Oxnard - 50
The Daily - Closing May Result in Some Layoffs

All you Obama voters are going to get pushed into the elevator shaft after Christmas..
this will get ugly faster than people might be thinking..
Reports are not looking good for retail sales so far.

.."“That’s just what you do now,” my father said, “Every year you go and get a new car.” “Wouldn’t it be better,” I asked as a precocious nine year-old, “if we saved our money in case a depression happened?” I will never forget my father’s reply: “Son, the next depression will be completely different from the one that I knew as a boy. In that depression, virtually nobody had any money so if you had even a little, you could buy nearly anything. In the next depression, everyone will have plenty of money but it won’t buy much of anything.” Little did I realize, then, how prescient my father would prove to be"

Yeah things change but things stay the same as well.

midnightsstaff said...

And the GOP can't compete with that sort of left wing firepower?
It's worse than I thought..
I really think we have lost the world to some sort of end of times
madness, these people are suicidal as well as being crazier than a bunch of march hares and our team can't compete.

What do they got in there some kind of hooka pipe or something? something to take the edge off "that angry young man" Rachel? lol..

Same amount of intellectual firepower in that room as with the Camp David Accords./sarc.

midnightsstaff said...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-04/keynesian-revolution-has-failed-now-what

here ya go Jim, this is the article I stole that story from.. it's a good read.

Mike Slater said...

Jim, I'm with you. I've had a concealed carry permit for over 14 years and like my American Express card I never leave home without my gun. It's like a piece of clothing to me.

In all those years I have never had to even show it but it's nice to know I have it and know how to use it if need be.

Do you really what Rick living anywhere near you?

midnightsstaff said...

Last full moon they were going on a road trip together...

.."C'mon Jimmy. I'll grab a guitar, amp, head to Scottsdale, pick up you up and we can run away to Vegas. The odds are better.

Then we can invade Area 51 and when they check my military ID, we can have a party. Then you can tell Obama face to face, what you think of him. I wanna watch"

Lucidity... I knew thee well.

hey, I only know what I read in the newspapers.

Jim McAllister said...

Mike,

I make sure I always have it. I've heard of people running up to cars at red lights. I hope it never happens to me but I'm going to be ready if it does.

It would be sad to have an incident and have forgotten the gun that day so it's the first thing I check when I leave home.

It's a sad commentary that we have to live that way but these days circumstances require it.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

I was slack jawed when I heard Obama was calling in those two freaks for tax advice. I'm sure many of his followers even had to flinch over the president of the United States asking for advice from especially Sharpton.

Someone commented that Al looked overly thin and drawn. I wonder if he is sick.

I'm sure AHG and Don think those two make a lot of sense and that Obama should take their advice.

It's like a bad dream.

Rick Kepple said...

"Do you really what Rick living anywhere near you?"

It's "want," Mike, and I'll do what I want. If you and Proud stalk me down there in person like you do here; I really wish you both would. I don't have a sense of humor for Mike Slater and Proud.

Mike said that his son is a cop and yet, Mike Slater harasses the disabled for a hobby. They are both enemies of the State and both mock God.

Proud gets his money from somewhere, probably SN. Likely, SN paid Mike Slater and Proud to harass me, but she is likely still being watched because of her past criminal activity with the Starck Club, drug distribution, funding those RAVE parties even into the 90's and probably still into illegal activities for fun and profit. Proud and Slater are likely both involved. The feds are probably watching them all even now.

Theoretically, if I move to Maricopa County, where SN was born, in her arrogance, the woman will escalate her operation and pay Slater and Proud even more money to try and get rid of me. It's somewhat likely that Slater or Proud, maybe both, are likely both dangerous and armed.

SN is likely still associated with biker gangs and organized crime. Slater and Proud suggest this is true. They've harassed the disabled and broken the law, but just haven't been caught committing their crimes.

It only takes three people to make organized crime outfits, kids. Just three acting in agreement to commit crimes and all of you have engaged in harassing the disabled. All of you belong in jail and the only thing preventing this is that your money is necessary for your local economy.

Rich people rarely if ever go to jail. They're like animals and will rip each other and others to pieces for profit. They're like raccoons in the garbage. Cute, but still pests.

midnightsstaff said...

moron...

well Jim I notice that the red light cameras in NYC have been "adjusted to capture more lawbreakers"..
a common practice once municipalities start getting creative in trying to squeeze the muppets for more revenue.

And it's only going to get worse- cops are evidently afraid of the feral gang members in Detroit with good reason, a crew is going from one gas station to the other with ak's doing a bit of wealth transfer, they have a photo of the ghetto battle wagon and a description- (are you sitting down?- they are 20 year old black men)- but after weeks they just can't seem to locate them.
Once the gang start working the donut shops maybe they will get caught.

Rick Kepple said...

Tell your dogs to mind, Jimmy. I'm pretty sure the cancer is just spreading to the eye and before I'm dead, there will be lots of terrorists and criminals put away or dead.

Mike Slater and Proud's hobby is to make my life a living hell. My hobby is similar, but a lot more devastating and legal.

SN didn't want to talk to me? Only criminals don't want to talk to me.

midnightsstaff said...

If the Nicks cartel is funding this side of the psyche-ops operation I should be getting a cut.
I have beat the pinata that resembles Rick unmercifully for years to the point he just talks gibberish while others are getting paid.. that's not right.
I deserve a cut... who was it that first noted the influence of the full moon on Rick's unstable group of personalities?

Well, he's close.. Proud has been the mastermind of the rave parties the Nicks cartel has funded but mike doesn't go inside.
mike just checks ID's, supplies the led lighted pacifiers and glo sticks and gets a cut on pushing those and a cut of the door.
But Proud actually does the organizing and hangs a lot with Stevie and her crew at her mansion.

You are right on one thing tho..
" It's somewhat likely that Slater or Proud, maybe both, are likely both dangerous and armed"

Bingo!!- you couldn't be more correct.

But I gotta laugh when you completely miss the clues behind Jim's involvement- sure he comes off as Ozzie Nelson, but he lives the life of Ozzie Osborn.. that is a clever smoke screen he projects.
Remember his talking about doing local dj appearances?.. sheer fantasy and a deliberate head fake.

On the west coast he is the premier rave dj jock and has been for years, he is booked solid the next three months ..including the Nicks raves..
goes by the street name of "BigTime Jimbo"- wears a white patent leather belt, matching spats and carries what he likes to call a five iron for personal defense..

how could you have missed it?

Haha...go ahead and call sheriff Joe and expose this operation, hell Joe has coffee with BTJ every tues. morning when he gets his cut..

No one can reach this gang with Joe, you better tell Eric Holder- mention the fact they are all white devils and he will be right on it.

midnightsstaff said...

well, good news.. Citigroup is hiring 11 K new employees!
that's good news isn't it?

midnightsstaff said...

whoops.. might have read that wrong..
Layoffs announced....December 5 , 2012

Citigroup Inc - 11,000 Worldwide
S. Central Kansas Medical Center - 9 Due to Healthcare Law
Update: R.S. Owens & Co. Inc - 95
Canadian Pacific Railway Ltd. - 4,500
The College of the Redwoods - Approves 16 Layoffs
NCsoft - Some Layoffs Reported
Eleven Illinois companies - 1934 Layoffs in Coming Months
Georgia Health Sciences University - 6


but it's still early in the day.

Layoffs announced...December 4 , 2012

The College of the Redwoods CA - Considers Layoffs
Reebok - 65 at Canton HQ, 150 Worldwide
Ritz-Carlton Club / Spa in Jupiter - Warns of Poss. Layoffs
NewsChannel 9 Syracuse NY - Reports of Poss. Layoffs
Update: SAIC Inc - 700
Geron Corp - 40% of Workforce
Entropic - 40
The University of Texas at Brownsville - Layoffs, No Number
Marlboro school NY - Planning 10 Layoffs
Claxton-Hepburn Medical Center NY - 6 Layoffs
The City of Pottsville PA - 5
Texas Instruments ( India ) - 170
Nokia Siemens Networks ( International ) - 1,000
LG Electronics Mobile ( China ) - Planning Layoffs
British Airways - 400 Mostly Voluntary
St. John's hospitals in Camarillo and Oxnard - 50
The Daily - Closing May Result in Some Layoffs

They are just kidding tho, the economy is roaring just like GM is roaring.
Bareback Obama promised.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Don't forget my burgundy slacks I wear with that wide white belt. They love me in Ahwatukee!

You had to be tough when I was a DJ. These guys today have it all on computer and just hit a button. I had a turntable, CD player, and cassette player to rotate through.

You should have seen me get all that stuff into a '91 Cavalier!

Jim McAllister said...

My favorite two quotes of the day:

From Trevor Bauer, pitcher for the Az Diamondbacks after watching a Romney-Obama debate:

"Obama looked childish and petty tonight. I'm ashamed that he is commander in chief of this great nation."

From Detroit councilwoman JoAnne Watson to Obama:

"We voted for you; now bail us out.

midnightsstaff said...

Baseball players are smarter than our elected officials?

RUkidding?
but I have to give you this one.

Yeah you were in your prime in the early days of the Scottsdale rave disco scene...
Saturday nights spent waving that five iron around- doin' the scratchback with your Vaughn Monroe and Brooks Benton 78's- sagging like a fat man in those burgundy slacks, showing the lucky ladies your plumber crack, putting on quite a show- you were a hit and on the top of your game.

..yo.. here come da man BTJ in his lowridin' Cavalier all blinged up flashin' a roll like a Paradise Valley pimp.
Lookie here... Boss Joe dropping by with an only slightly younger than he hook up for the evening hanging on his arm-Stevie Nicks, I bet you didn't know he was tapping her too.

.. just raking in the bucks on his way to bust another drop house..

ah the memories.

Mike Slater said...

Rick, yes I'm dangerous and armed at all times. If you move to Maricopa County be on your best behavior. We don't care much for nuts out here.

Jim,I read your blog on azvoices about the college bowl games being a sham. I totally agree. I only watch the Rose, Orange, Sugar and Cotton bowls plus the national championship games.

If I wanted to watch losing football teams I'll watch the Cardinals, which I admit is kinda fun.

midnightsstaff said...

..note to self..
get mike Cardinal's hat for Christmas for sure and maybe an autographed Matt Leinart jersey too..

..all I am wishing for is a couple of offensive tackles for the Pack- and get Matthews back in the line up as well.

this team is very thin at more than one position- but I would rather get the line healthy before Rogers gets sent into next week and do without the pass rush of Matthews.

..frickin' Walton is Jeckyl and Hyde besides being some sort of a low life.

maybe a rumor of a possibility of a hockey season starting soon, they are putting ice on the rink at Jobbing.
..that's as good as the news gets.

Rick Kepple said...

"Rick, yes I'm dangerous and armed at all times. If you move to Maricopa County be on your best behavior. We don't care much for nuts out here."

Mike Slater, you like to pick on disabled people. You're garbage. If we meet in Arizona, pull a gun on me and you'll do time. I will press charges. I do not tolerate garbage.

CJ might be interested to know that I had a tarot card reading today before the eye photography. It was pretty telling.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

That Cavalier was a hatchback and had a surprising large amount of room. I could get speakers and all that other stuff in there. Great little car, 5 speed stick.

I never was a fan of Bauer until I saw his Opinion of Obama.

I would love to see all these cities like Detroit calling out Obama to bail them out. Maybe he would learn that you never get something for nothing in this world.

Jim McAllister said...

Mike,

College football has become a joke with all the bowl games. Teams like Duke have no business in a bowl. They gave up 289 points in their 6 losses.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Leinart is the best paid clipboard holder in the NFL.

Somehow, he doesn't look right in a Raider's jersey. That team was known for its bad asses which he is not.

Rick Kepple said...

I saw a tarot card reader today. I don't believe in that stuff, but she started reading from the crystal ball and she knew everything! Laid out those cards, told me to write a book of my experiences, but not to blame. But to help people. She's not the only one who told me to write a book. Lots of veterans have told me to write about my experiences, but the psychic said to make the book positive, not negative. Not a tell-all. I agree.

I am destined to help millions of veterans with my encouraging words. Jimmy is probably right about me appearing to be like Will Rogers, but he was much like me. Except Rogers said that the best way to change things was with humor. He really did want to tell people the shocking truth, but that's my job.

Okay, so maybe SN didn't hire Mike and Proud. She wouldn't do such a thing. I'm sorry SN.

midnightsstaff said...

.."Maybe he would learn that you never get something for nothing in this world"

..hate to tell ya Jim, but you do get something for nothing now..

Well by God!.. now you are going to write for a living, isn't that where you got on the bus? then it was goat farmer, survivalist, rocker, counsel to the stars and all around good guy..

I suppose a completed circle is pretty much what I expected tho, I'm just afraid that Bodo might have put some notions in your head that are starting to cause you....mixed feelings.

Now you come around with another half assed apology for accusing a couple of Arizona's finest citizens of selling their souls for filthy lucre and in so slandering one of Arizona's premiere songstress's in the bargain.

No I'm afraid Arizona is just not for you Rick, we like our coffee strong and our women hot.. so to speak.
by the way anybody seen the hot chick lately?

Mike Slater said...

Rick, give it a rest. You're just an annoying person that no one cares about.

Middy, I've been a Ram fan since the mid 60's. This year they beat the Cardinals twice and beat the Niners once and tied them once.

At least the Rams have won a Super Bowl unlike the Cardinals.

midnightsstaff said...

Actually I have no hate for the Rams, they have paid their dues and it looks like they know how to play the 49'rs pretty well.
Imagine two teams tying twice in a season, it nearly happened.

I liked Bradshaw when he played at OU.

midnightsstaff said...

guess I mean Bradford.. not Terry.

Jim McAllister said...

Good thing you corrected yourself on Bradford. I was afraid I might have to chew you out!

The kid can play.

midnightsstaff said...

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-05/the-economys-big-screeching-slowdown-to-end-2012

The Economy's Big Screeching Slowdown to End 2012:

.."The trouble with a slowdown in business inventory spending is that it hits the top of the production cycle and turns into a headwind for so many other parts of the economy. When businesses stop buying more raw materials, that translates into softer demand for manufacturers, which then cut production and reduce employment, which then hits consumption. It usually takes a few months to trickle through to the economy. “We’re only starting to see the signs of a hit to employment,” Oubina says"

Bill Tatro was talking about this very problem on his show today, "pushing a string" I think they call it.

I'm sure the negotiators will solve all of our problems by Christmas.
and Hillary will bring us world peace.

Jim McAllister said...

Mike,

Before the Rams were in L. A., they were the Cleveland Rams later to be replaced by the Browns and then the new Browns.

Bradford is a good young QB as is Andy Dalton on the Bengals.

Did you see Robert Griffin III against the Giants Monday? Wow, that guy can play! Hew reminds me a bit of Fran Tarkenton who could run and throw.

Rick Kepple said...

"Rick, give it a rest. You're just an annoying person that no one cares about."

Mike, you claim to be a good man, carrying a gun, a son as a cop, and you like picking on the disabled and others that you perceive to be weaker than yourself. And you bet your ass that I'm fricking annoying.

Jimmy, I got a meeting with a CEO today. He specifically said that he's got a problem that only I can fix for him. I don't charge him anything and in exchange, I build my name in the entertainment industry.

I might talk to the CEO about him buying my farm and I'll help him out. He'll make money from my writing and from the real estate.

In Missouri, the rich look for the best deals. In Colorado, it used to be that the rich paid the highest prices, but Rush Limbaugh said the rich brag about how little they spend now (three years ago). I've been advised to avoid the VA, use private doctors ONLY and move to a medical marijuana state and stay off the pills completely.

The CIA said that the VA is not authorized to know what veterans actually did for a living as soldiers. Foreign doctors, you know. I wrote to John McCain about the problem in the VA and that foreign doctors could be phishing for information and sending information back to their governments. Why on earth would they have foreign Muslim doctors working on American veterans is beyond me.

midnightsstaff said...

Don't just quit taking whatever meds you have been prescribed- that is dangerous.

But getting off meds that are not doing much is a great idea, Americans are over prescribed more than in most other countries.

.."The reality is, however, that neither Republicans nor Democrats are serious about cutting spending. Even though U.S. military spending is exponentially larger than any other country and is notorious for its inefficiency and cost overruns, Republicans cannot seem to stomach even one penny of cuts to the Pentagon's budget. This is unfortunate because this is the easiest, most obvious place to start getting spending under control. The military-industrial complex and unconstitutional overseas military interventions should be the first place we look for budget cuts"

http://dailybail.com/home/paul-no-one-in-washington-has-the-balls-to-cut-spending.html

But the Kubuki theater continues, Republicans pretending to stand for the taxpayer and Democrats pretending to stand for the common man- both intent on stepping on our neck and selling us out.

Ron Paul should be listened to but they have painted over his message with ridicule.
he continues...
.."The truth is that there is no excuse for government spending being as high as it is, nor for taxes being as high as they are. Even the God of the Old Testament only asked for 10% as a tithe and offering, and Americans revolted against the King of England for taxes that amounted to less than five percent. Yet so many people today complain about "loopholes" for the rich that lower their actual tax rate to "only" 13% in some instances. Even that is a criminal amount to pay for a wasteful, abusive, unconstitutional government"

I ask you just what the hell was wrong with his message?

midnightsstaff said...

Looks like aapl is getting ready to take another dive this morning..
Down over seven bucks in the pre market..
wonder if this will be another Dow up day and Nasdaq down day?
Aapl crash is probably affecting the gold market as well, positions have to be covered.

Barry knows what he is doing.

I wonder how many of the people working feverishly on the debt crisis has holdings or futures?
Inside trading is not illegal you know- if you are a special person.

1000 aapl people are probably going to get their faces ripped off today.

Rick Kepple said...

"Don't just quit taking whatever meds you have been prescribed- that is dangerous."

I'll keep the hypertension med, but I'm not taking the other stuff. These days, Americans have to research their meds, because doctors are writing dangerous mixes of meds and some of the side effects are just plain dangerous!

A goat farmer got stranded, so he's staying at my home for a few days. He makes cheese with a homemade press, but needs parts, so I Amazoned them, bought them and they'll be sent to his farm. Only fifteen bucks. He promised to send me cheese, so it's a good investment.

I see that Apple is moving some jobs back the U.S. so the overseas employees must want a raise. I read in a business journal last year that 12 million jobs will be coming back, because those cheap workers overseas want more money.

Presidents take credit for making jobs, when it's the natural ebb and flow of private business. Same with gas prices. The President can't possibly control them, or it would prove we don't live in a free market system.

And finally, communities may stop giving subsidies and incentives to corporations for building in their city. The New York Times did research and proved the system does not actually work. There is no evidence that entitlements produce jobs. Here's more on the subject: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/opinion/race-to-the-bottom.html?hp&_r=0

I think eventually, Wall Street will cease to be a good investment when people begin waking up. The real investment is building jobs in the community to keep the economic cycle circulating. The upper class is in fact better than the poor, but they are never to claim that all wealth comes from them, because it doesn't. Wealth building can't happen in isolation. It's impossible.

I'd like to perform an experiment to lock a millionaire in a closet. If Trickle Down is real, then in a week, open the door and the closet should be filled with money. Yes, it's absurd, but that's the point. Trickle Down economics is a fairytale. Our system is a continual cycle of money circulating in the three classes.

midnightsstaff said...

But trickle up is reality?
that is what you are saying.

Na.. it's obvious you have no understanding of how or what money really is.. you bought into the canard that it's the creation and therefor property of the government that we are only allowed it's use.
That's how we ended up in this dictatorship.

Money is only a medium for exchange of goods and services.
It is a convenient proxy for wealth and wealth being a stored commodity reflecting man's labor as the product of man's efforts.

Man's labor is actually his private property which was at one time protected by the Constitution.

The first step in acquiring wealth is found in saving, it is the fundamental building block for all economic dynamics- after that acquired wealth is utilized for the benefit of many because of it's compounding nature in a capitalistic marketplace.

But that's something you refuse to see- I suggest you read what happened to our first colony.. Jamestown -it was established on Communist principles which of course failed.

.."In September 1608, Smith was elected president of the colony and head of the council. He implemented common sense regulations for the colony such as, "… he that will not work shall not eat…." Under Smith's leadership the death toll dropped dramatically, the fort was repaired, crops planted, a well dug, trees cut into clapboards, and products such as pitch, tar, and soap ash were produced for shipment back to England"

Trickle down is not perfect but trickle up is impossible- all you accomplish is to take the dynamic aspect out of the velocity of money.

Adam Smith describing the "invisible hand" covered this in the 1700's for Christ's sake!- you should read it before making a bigger fool of yourself.

After all it's not the amount of money at all but the velocity of money that stimulates an economy- and an ever growing cancer of government parasites contribute nothing and in fact decelerates the velocity which adds zero despite Nancy Pelosi's ridiculous statement otherwise.

stagflation.. here we are, and here we will stay- it's going to get much worse.

proud said...

Something tells me, any Tarot reading on Rick.....

ISN'T READ FROM A FULL DECK !

(The preceding was paid for by a lucrative grant from SN ;-)

midnightsstaff said...

Cardinals practice was suspended for a couple of hours yesterday, one of the players found what he described as a white powder on the field at the Jiffy pop, FBI took samples and declared it was the goal line, practice continued once they realized that the team probably wouldn't be exposed to it any time soon.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Looks like Apple is joining Facebook.

Gallup posted today that the unemployment for November is 8.3.

Gee, do you suppose the CBO will have a lower number than that? LOL

What a joke; You know O will not accept 8.3. I predict he'll say 7.88 and brag about how it went down a point.

He can't have anything like that slow him down. It's full speed ahead against those damn job creators!

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Funny on the Cardinals. They definitely are a joke. That Jets game was hilarious.

Now, I see where Skelton is number one again.

I want to see them 4-12. Meanwhile, the Suns are about as inept. Maybe they should wear those "LOS SUNS" shirts again.

Life is good!

Rick Kepple said...

"Something tells me, any Tarot reading on Rick..... ISN'T READ FROM A FULL DECK !"

Just thinking outloud, why does Jimmy allow his pals to write about me, but when I write about someone negatively, I get shut down. Makes you wonder why I stick around, huh?

Must be a Goth thing.

Proud to be on Jim's blog! Don't spit into the mike and other music sayings.

I think you may have been right, Jimmy. I might start blogging for a six figure income in 2013, and that's if this new project takes off. The board meeting was fun. It was like hanging out with a really cool Howard Hughes, minus the long fingernails. We actually think a lot alike, especially about social topics. This guy feels that real wealth is how many people you employ! But he also outsources some of the labor. Anyway, it sounds good and if I make a lot of money, that's cool too.

Rick Kepple said...

"Money is only a medium for exchange of goods and services."

Okay Middy, look and try to understand.

The ore is dug out of the ground and that company pays taxes on that mineral. The ore is sold to a manufacturer and they pay taxes on it when they make the product, or ingredient for a final product(s). At each step of the game, taxes are paid. Everyone has overhead. There are wages, insurance, bonuses, cleaning, supplies, etc.

Meanwhile, all that money is circulating around. It's not trickling whatsoever. It's moving along like the rain on the ground after a good rain or a drought. The money should always be flowing.

Unlike water, money flows uphill and back down in a continual cycle of commerce. However, let's say that the consumers refuse to buy overseas products and Cincinnati is making everything in the entire world! Walmart buys everything from that one place.

The system would fail, wouldn't it?

Do you see that it's impossible to just trickle down from above and do what? Form a puddle around the poor and NEVER go back up? It's got to go back up and back down.

Plain and simple: a good economy is a continual cycle of work, jobs, consumer spending (by people with jobs), employers hiring from where they live, and American communities working in a cooperative system of capitalism where there is always the king sheep, but that rich guy NEVER behaves like he is the best of everyone. Socrates said that arrogance on behalf of the rich will collapse the system. The cycle will be strangled, because the real wealth of the rich is in how many people they can make the lives better. Henry Ford cared about his employees and ran a tight ship too. He'd fire a drunkard, but feed the starving. He did not tolerate poverty in his company and would pay his employees well.

The guy that I talked to today said the same as I've always believed: if you have good employees, you paid them well so they'd remain with you. You care about your community too. Feed your house first, then your neighbors (foreign policy).

midnightsstaff said...

.."Plain and simple: a good economy is a continual cycle of work, jobs, consumer spending (by people with jobs), employers hiring from where they live, and American communities working in a cooperative system of capitalism where there is always the king sheep, but that rich guy NEVER behaves like he is the best of everyone"

Actually you are partially right, that is what I call velocity of money-circulation, but why should any free person limit themselves to only hiring local?
That makes no sense to me at all, the man that is taking capital risk should be the final arbitrator of what and where his money (property) is invested.
That is what a business represents, an investment- every kid who has run a lemonade stand or sold magazines door to door knows the concept.

Besides I doubt if you needed an operation you would demand it be someone from that one horse stall you live in- Like Archie Bunker wanting a Jew for a lawyer, you would demand a big city doctor.

This highly evolved economy is based on specialization, it has evolved from an agrarian based society to a point that one person really can't sustain their own existence in a modern sense that is-
It has been highly productive to a point we could pay people not to work and feed them for free- but that is coming to an end and quick.

This may shock you Rick but business is not some government program designed to give jobs to others- it's why you apply for a job instead of having one issued to you by government.

Other than that I have a hard time understanding your progression of thought, besides you jumping from one thought to the other coupled with a steeped in entitlement mentality makes it impossible to follow that train wherever it is headed.

Only one thing, before one concerns themselves with acts of nobility it's probably a wise thing to make sure there is enough profit being made to afford that luxury.

Rick Kepple said...

Here's something interesting.

This meeting today; you know those Captcha things, where only a real person can post those things. And websites are blocking those overseas companies and their bots, so companies are bringing back jobs to hire bloggers to creatively market products.

In this new system, sales increased by 40 percent by using writers like myself rather than a bot to annoy people. As Mike says, I'm annoying. SN once told me that when given lemons, to make lemonade.

Then I get other people involved in the product advertising, and soon I have achieved saturation. So SN should be 40 percent richer because of my crazy ass. I'm that good!

So now CEO's are seeking me out to do this same kind of crazy ass writing for them.

You guys wanna learn to bartend? Free to sign up and free online classes! You too can make from one hundred to five hundred dollars a night, by following these easy, step by step instructions! And it's FREE!

See. The market is working in a natural progression and President Obama didn't get rid of bots. It's just business and I could wind up making a million dollars a year being my crazy ass self!

So I gotta figure a way to make an ad not look like an ad, while still being an ad. It pays on percentage with minimum at $125,000 a year. Potentially a million a year.

Bots are dead. Adios bitches. Writers are BACK!

Mike Slater said...

Rick, you're not only annoying but boring also.

Anonymous said...

Hi Jim,

How right you are, but do you really understand Obama's reasoning. Well here's my viewpoint:

The 'big-headed chocolate cookie' with the wall to wall smile (in case anyone complains about my 'colorful description - let them look at my photo on my website), has his head filled with the gaseous emissions from a tight win. He actually believes the kudos shown down on him by the consistently deluded Liberal Left.

He now feels that he cannot lose by holding out against the Republicans for a huge rise in taxes on the wealthy or, those who earn over $250,000 a year.

In one of my earlier editorials in the Conservative Independent, I put the shoreline of wealth, realistically, starting at 1.5 million dollars: everything below that is Middle Income. I personally know several families who earn in the $250,000 range who well know that one slight flutter of the market can ruin them.

However, he feels that he can hoodwink the rest of the country into buying his 'muddy-water' financial plans, because he won a narrow election by the coattails of the ‘young know nothing’ crowd, who don’t want the spigot turned off on what we as a nation can no longer afford.

If he wins his way he'll bankrupt the Republic!

Jim you are absolutely correct. The Republicans should let the country go over the financial cliff.

In the meantime, let's see how well our home-grown Muhammad can handle the 'chaos', as well as the Egypt, Syria and Afghanistan tidal wave rapidly coming on.

You will note how anxious Hillary is to go through the door to retirement. Who can blame her?

Allen

midnightsstaff said...

Now and then we run across someone who gets it, thanks Allen for your perspective.
He is right now waging a childish war of chicken with America- he is probably correctly reasoning that he won the last time by refusing to negotiate, so of course he believes he will once again win again by refusing to negotiate.

Compounding the confusion we have a worthless collection of Republican negotiators who have absolutely no business in the room.
Scared money at the table loses every time.

So no one is negotiating for the best interests of America again,

None of this would have been possible without the deliberate cultivation of an ignorant voting population and a compliant media who refuses to ask pertinent questions.

I suspect that eventually the producer class will realize what damage the media has done to this nation and the fact it has no hardened defenses like the political class enjoy.

In short we are headed for a very uncivilized period in our national history.

I am not at all sanguine that a Mitt Romney would have had much more success with a dying economy with the GOP constantly undermining his efforts, but at least his presidency would have offered some stability to small business and after all that is all they ask.

Meaningful cuts or the Republitards should just walk out of the room and let him own it.

Mike Shedlock has a good article this morning on the effects on small business.

midnightsstaff said...

Michigan has just passed a law concerning mandatory right to work protections for workers so Bareback has childishly threatened to hold federal funding for a couple of big labor projects their unions are looking forward to.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/12/06/obama-administration-comes-out-against-michigan-right-to-work-legislation/

I say call his blackmail bluff and let him explain to the unions in Michigan why they are not getting that money for bridges and roads.

..doesn't anyone know how to play hardball anymore?- he is trying to rule against state decisions the voters have approved.
I say make him own every one of these idiotic knee jerk decisions he makes off cuff and shout it from the roof tops.

Oh yeah Jim, those 11K pink slips at Citi I mentioned Wednesday, they went out Thursday and let them go this week, not some time in the distant future- they are waking up this morning unemployed.

that's reality.

midnightsstaff said...

enjoy your Zobamaphone suckers...
this is just a down payment on what it will cost.

December 7 , 2012

Streetside Records at 401 S. Providence Road in Columbia Missouri
The Steak 'n Hoagie Shop in Shelby NC
Byron's Drive-In in Honolulu

December 6 , 2012

Riverview Inn in Charlotte NC
Update: Video Americain in Takoma Park DC
Stevens Hardware in Annapolis MD
Tireman Auto Service Centers Leaving Woodville Mall Ohio Location
The Lost Rivers Medical Center in Arco is eliminating its long-term care center - up to 30 Jobs Lost
Skelly and the Bean Capital Hill Seattle WA - Closing, Hopefully Opening New Location
Blockbuster Crestwood Location in AL?
Family Dollar in Fayetteville NC
JCIM at the National Turnpike location KY?
British supermarket chain Tesco is considering closing down its 200 American Fresh & Easy grocery stores
The Tacoma Chevy’s Restaurant WA
The Philips Lighting plant in Bath NY to Close by End of 2013 - 280 Jobs Lost
North Yarmouth Memorial School in Maine - School Board Considers Closing
Sunovion Pharmaceuticals Inc.will cease operations at its Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada manufacturing facility in mid-2013

December 5 , 2012

Lee Douglas Interiors in Sioux Falls SD
Visulite Cinemas in Lynchburg VA Closed Nov. 30
Rochester Produce in Rochester Minn. Closing for good?
Catherine Imports in Duluth Minnesota
Citigroup Inc - Closing 84 Branches , 44 in US
Clay's Restaurant at California Avenue and Eye Street
Danville VA School Board Decided to Close Woodrow Wilson, I.W. Taylor and Glenwood Elementary Schools
I.C. System Inc. Closing Branch Office in Mason City - 95 Workers Idled
Update: Dunkin' Donuts and Great Sport Coffee in Clawson MI
PNC Bank says it will close its West Main Street branch in Springfield Ohio
Towne Auction Sales in Colchester Conn.
Bank of America is closing its downtown Rock Hill branch NC
Carman's Country Kitchen in PA
Dante Company in The Courtyard Campbell CA
Reston's Barnes & Noble VA

December 4 , 2012

La Strada on Mount Vernon Avenue in VA
Harlem jazz club Lenox Lounge NY
Alcoa Closing Auburn Plant by End of March 2013 - 43 Layoffs
Update: Georgia Pacific Closing Box Making Plant in Chattanooga Tenn.
The Great Passion Play in Eureka Springs Ark.
The Walter P. Chrysler Museum Closing?
Esquire Big & Tall in Charlotte NC
Mouton's Catering in Southeast Texas
Bank of America Closing 2 Massachusetts Facilities in 2013 - 200 Layoffs
Sweet Celebrations in Downtown Abilene TX
Rice Epicurean Markets in Houston Texas, Closing 4 Stores only 1 to Remain Open
Update: Bank of America Corp. will close a call center in northwest Fresno, Calif.
Preferred Distributors is closing their facility at 101 Miller Drive in Lake Delton - 44 Jobs Lost
Union Institute & University is closing its Montpelier operations Moving toward Online Classes?
Tender is the Night Lingerie, in Westwood NJ

December 3 , 2012

AFL Web Printing Closing 1 of 2 Plants in NJ - 100 Jobs Lost
Beef O’ Brady’s and Giovanni’s Pizza in Terre Haute Indiana
Surry United Methodist Church in Surry VA
Kansas Legal Service says it plans to shut the Lawrence office Kansas
Wallace Jewelers, located at 351 West Chester Pike PA
St. Paul Lutheran Church in Middletown Conn.
Chai's Island Bistro in Honolulu HI

Rick Kepple said...

"Rick, you're not only annoying but boring also."

Yep, paid well and published for that annoying and boring stuff too.

Those magazines you see in the grocery store don't pay a thing compared to dull and boring magazines. That's where the real money is.

The dull and boring people rule the world. We're the ones that you people invest your money with. We're the ones that you come to when you get in trouble. We're in every profession. We're all boring and proud of it! And politicians use our ideas, otherwise they'd just be pretty figureheads. Same thing with celebrities who are largely a dime a dozen.

It's the writers that create speeches, we write the news, stories, songs, everything your minds consume, writers like me created.

Jim sometimes writes something good. A writer can't be great ALL THE TIME!

midnightsstaff said...

Well now you are on your way to becoming a rich guy you probably won't mind giving half of it back to the government so they can buy phones and rubbers for others..

I hope you make a fortune.

Rick Kepple said...

"I hope you make a fortune."

I love making lots of money, but what's really fun is helping ordinary people for free. It irritates rich folks when ordinary people get ahead.

midnightsstaff said...

I'm an ordinary person, send me money.

Jim McAllister said...

Big article online today from USA Today about the KC Chiefs shooting and of course the continued blather about how bad guns are from that little twerp Bob Costas.

The column mentions the large amount of NFL and NBA players who carry guns for protection. I particularly enjoyed the comment from Thomas Jones, a running back who retired this year after 12 seasons of which a couple were with the Cardinals.

I see an interesting parallel between what Jones says about the more money one makes the more people dislike you because you have more than they do.

Isn't that what all this tax increase nonsense for the rich is about with Obama?

He and his followers hate the rich because they have more, therefore, they are the ones he and his mob are aiming to hurt. Even if it is only symbolic at best since the amount of money gained would only run the government a week, it's all in principle to "get the rich guys."

Never mind that the rich employ millions because the Obama lovers are mainly on the government dole anyway. Those with an ounce of sense know that Obama is a phony.

I stand by the this column and could care less if we go over the fiscal cliff. Obama deserves to be blamed for this by the people in this country who are capable of reasoning, not the idiots who feel this guy is the next messiah when in reality he is just another loser crook from Chicago.

Jim McAllister said...

Allen,

The 'big-headed chocolate cookie' with the wall to wall smile (in case anyone complains about my 'colorful description - let them look at my photo on my website), has his head filled with the gaseous emissions from a tight win.

LOL, I love it. I love that phony smile and the way he refers to people as "folks" especially when he say he want to go ahead and raise taxes on the $250M+ folks now and maybe toward the end of 2013, he will talk about some cost cutting.

Does he really think we are dumb enough to believe a lire like that? He is a con man but not a very smart one!

As you say, the $250M is not the income of what i consider a "rich" couple. You especially know that as you live in the east where the cost of living is higher. I had a fried from New York tell me recently that couples in New York making $250M are no more than middle class and have to get up in the morning and go to work like everyone else. No yachts in the Hamptons for that kind of dough.

You're right, his electorate was clueless and vulnerable to a pied piper mentality like his. Even at that, he should remember that half the country did not vote for him so he is not exactly holding the prestige of a guy like Eisenhower.

Another trait of his electorate is that if the freebies stop, they will disappear. He can only give away so many Obamaphones.

I love that comment yesterday fro Ms. Watson of the Detroit City Council where she she tells Obama we got you elected; now bail us out! I would love to see Cleveland, Atlanta, and a bunch of other cities say the same thing.

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

Thanks for your daily update on job losses.

Yesterday Gallup said the true unemployment for November was 8.3. I told Barb that Obama's number today would be 7.8. I missed it, it was 7.7.

The lies continue from the press about how things are getting much better. Of course, one column said the reason the number went down was the same as always: people dropped out of the work force, hence, were not counted. How unusual!

It's amazing what people can do with numbers to make them suit their plan.

I remember about 40 years ago when I was going to make a presentation to Safeway in Kansas City and was waiting for some share of market figures from the Nielsen ratings.

They didn't show up in time so my boss said "Just make them up. Safeway won't know the difference."

It just shows that larceny is everywhere and there are millions who will always believe those incorrect numbers on unemployment.

midnightsstaff said...

This game is not about increased revenues, it is about for once and for all history being rewritten, they need the GOP to go along with the farce so they can get the Republican idiots to falsely repudiate what they have been wanting to for thirty years- lowered marginal rates increases tax revenue.
And it keeps the focus off the whole problem which is spending.

But that can't be done without the Republitards going along and in doing so validating the canard.

If Cryin' John had any balls at all he would go on vacation and tell Obama to let him know how it came out- step on it Thelma.

But instead the crybaby looks like a beat dog who just want's the beating to stop no matter what it requires besides he is a big government asswipe himself.

If he signs on he owns it- if you watch carefully it's apparent that Obama is scared shit he is going to be blamed for the obvious failure he represents, letting him walk the plank alone would turn the tables on him- remember the clock is ticking and he knows we are headed for a true depression.

The Republicans actually have the advantage except they are a bunch of little girls.

Jim McAllister said...

Here's the latest:

I hope Boehner holds his ground.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/07/boehner-blames-obama-my-way-or-highway-for-standstill-in-fiscal-talks/

Jim McAllister said...

Middy,

I think Boehner has held up pretty good. I agree with you though on how he should take a vacation and tell Obama its his.

The next 25 days will be interesting.

It's not that much money; Obama is just wanting to show his power. As we've said the Reps will lose all in 2016 anyway so let's nail the bastard.

midnightsstaff said...

lol.. that dog won't hunt.

midnightsstaff said...

..."In the weakest recovery since the Great Depression, most of the reduction in unemployment from its 10.0 percent peak in October 2009 has been accomplished through a significant drop in the percentage of adults working or looking for work. Were adult labor-force participation the same today, the unemployment rate would be 9.7 percent.
Adding more than 8 million part-time workers who can't find full-time work, the unemployment rate becomes 14.4 percent. It rose above 14 percent in the wake of the financial crisis and remains stuck there.
Convincing millions of Americans they don't want a job or compelling desperate workers to settle for part-time work has been the Obama Administration's most effective jobs program"

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/unemployment-rate-falls-more-adults-discouraged-quit-looking-165711644.html

..and this from Yahoo... they will have to scrub this one fast.

Rick Kepple said...

"I'm an ordinary person, send me money"

Okay Middy. I'll need your address, a police report of yourself, the need for the money and I'll buy the item for you. Sorry dude, but you might just spend it on alcohol or drugs. You guys taught me to never give money to strangers.

"Obama is just wanting to show his power"

Ya think? But it's NOT Obama who made this entire thing into an issue! Read on ...

"Isn't that what all this tax increase nonsense for the rich is about with Obama?"

The rich have made the Bush tax cuts an issue. Let's imagine for a moment that the Republitards don't say a word about it. They may or may not expire, probably not. Remember, Obama is controlled too. Poor folks don't pull his strings; the rich do.

So what you have are the Republi-actors putting on a seriously good show for their constituents. And you're right about Obama having all the power now. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

The more the GOP whines and moans, the weaker they appear. If they don't pull their collective heads out of their asses, a Democrat will take the White House in 2016.

Go ahead and tell me you're wrong. It's your money, not mine.

Mike Slater said...

Obama's goal all along has been to turn the United States into a socialist style European type nation and they way he's going it shouldn't take long until we become like Greece. Once the takers aren't getting their government check in the mail the rioting will begin.

midnightsstaff said...

.."Sorry dude, but you might just spend it on alcohol or drugs. You guys taught me to never give money to strangers"

But isn't that exactly what Obama does with the money he steals from those who work?
he doesn't care if they use the money on drugs or alcohol? and he gives money to strangers even out of country like Hamas and al Queda.

..Where is that Christian compassion you claim, now threatening withholding your charity from people that might have issues?

I don't need your money, but I will take your money and buy beer with it.

haha. you liberals are good at giving money away as long as it is someone elses, but you are just as stingy as the next guy with your own.
..that is if you ever actually had two nickles to rub together.

somewhere along the line you confused taking the hippocratic oath doctors take confused with the hypocritic oath all you marxists take.

proud said...

Republicans have mishandled this from day 1.

Should have worked with Dems like Schumer to raise the cap to $500K or $1M....

Should have gave Obama the increase, and made him own it and the subsequent fiscal ramifications....

They can go to the mat, stand their ground...unfortunately they have already lost the battle, and are too stupid to know it.

Pew poll taken recently:
Q: If an agreement is not reached, who do you think would be more to blame: (the Republicans in Congress) or (President Obama)? (Options randomized)
Hide Results
Detailed View
Republicans in Congress
53
%
President Obama
27
Both equally (VOL.)
12
Neither (VOL.)
2
No opinion
6
Just wait and see what Obama and the main stream media will do to increase blame and resentment toward Republicans if and when they stand their ground and Joe 6 packs taxes go up.... Disaster for Republicans no matter how you spread the shyt....

midnightsstaff said...

If and when the Republican Party gets religion on returning to it's roots maybe then it might get some traction, but I am not holding my breath for them to have that epiphany.

The GOP today is a ship of fools I refuse to associate with..
there really is no party for the honest man any longer, and the sooner we admit it the better.

.."An aristocratic society may hold that a soldier or a man of learning is superior to a rich manufacturer or banker, but in a democratic society the latter are inevitably put higher, if only because their achievement is more readily comprehended by the inferior man, and he can more easily imagine himself, by some favour of God, duplicating it"
HLM.

Hey Rick... don't let go of that dream..

midnightsstaff said...

.."What the common man longs for in this world, before and above all his other longings, is the simplest and most ignominious sort of peace: the peace of a trusty in a well-managed penitentiary.
He is willing to sacrifice everything else to it. He puts it above his dignity and he puts it above his pride.
Above all, he puts it above his liberty. The fact, perhaps, explains his veneration for policemen, in all the forms they take–his belief that there is a mysterious sanctity in law, however absurd it may be in fact"-HLM

This guy saw liberalism for what it represents almost eighty years ago...

That is exactly what the last election was all about, people wanting to be institutionalized, yet having the perks of a block porter or a galley slave in a well managed penitentiary..

Their natural contempt for concepts such as personal liberty, dignity and pride makes selling out relatively painless.
..and of course selling out is completely out of the question for a reasonable man.

But...that pretty much describes the mindset of the average Detroit, Philly or LA freeshitarmyvolunteer or one of the many Corporations laundering federal subsidies payback through lobbyists.

It simply will keep going on until it doesn't and that is the day you better be ready for.

Rick Kepple said...

"But isn't that exactly what Obama does with the money he steals from those who work?"

You have no evidence to support this, Middy.

"he doesn't care if they use the money on drugs or alcohol?"

Now you're a mind reader and you know if Obama cares or not.

"and he gives money to strangers even out of country like Hamas and al Queda."

Bush did this too.

"Where is that Christian compassion you claim, now threatening withholding your charity from people that might have issues?"

I've helped a lot of people, Middy. I've discovered one thing; regardless of income, it is foolish to help someone who does not believe in God. It doesn't matter if they go to church or not. Christians just plain make healthier decisions, but caring is not a universal Christian trait.

My oldest brother and SN are actually very much alike in thought. Several times, both could have helped me and they let me starve. So advice is all we ever give one another.

No Middy, I won't give you money to buy alcohol or drugs. I'll help you with food, equipment to help you get back to work (if I can afford to buy it for you), even try to find you counseling in your area if you need it, but I don't give drunks and drug addicts money.

I help people because Christ did it. I help people because someone could have helped me and they chose not to; even my family.

And no, I don't easily accept help. Buying the farm isn't help. It's merely a business transaction and has no influence either way on the degree of friendship.

The Bible was written by scholars employed by a Roman emporeror to maintain control on a failing society. Religion is still used to this day and fear is the second greatest motivator. Hope is the number one motivator.

As for people stealing from those who work; the rich steal jobs, put them overseas, then award themselves bonuses while selling products to the unemployed on welfare, while simultaneously bitching about the poor people buying their outsourced products.

Rich folks aren't smart at all. They're just unethical, ignorant about society and how an economy actually works, and they are a weakness in the genetics of humanity. It doesn't take brains to make millions of dollars; it just takes a lack or morals and ethics.

midnightsstaff said...

But how can you be a Christian and hold such contempt for the rich only because you aren't one? and what do you back up the notion with that the democrat man is of superior moral character only because of his economic status?

I don't hold contempt for the abject poor of society, I hold contempt for those who's lack of motivation other than the wish to steal property from others under the color of law defines their character.

No rich bastard has ever stolen a nickel from me, but poor people sure have.

when you make these idiotic generalizations it makes the thoughtful among us toss a red flag on the field.

Na you are just another garden variety low information voter with a lot of bigotry in your closet.

My mom's family grew up on an oil lease in the Depression years Oklahoma and ended her life living on 700 a month. but she never once said one bad thing about the rich of society, she knew that without the creative and innovative the poor would remain in the converted chicken coop she lived in sometimes eating only one baked potato a day in her school lunch as a child- she had one dress for school so every day she had to wash and iron it for the next- life was tough including her bout with smallpox she got from the reservation kids but she didn't complain.

My mom along with her sisters and brothers being raised by her mom alone because her dad got killed on the Arkansas river was a person with absolutely no guile whatsoever.

It's unfortunate that you and a lot of other people were raised feral instead of by a good person teaching life by example.

You never learned the basics including the realization that the definition of poverty is not found in economics but in the area of moral behavior.

And that's the thing you refuse to see that will anchor you forever to the rock of true poverty.

Once the lust for money is no longer the center of your life, miraculously money no longer becomes a problem in your life.
just like lowering taxes creates wealth.
It's one of the deeper truths of life, it's a mystery feral golems like you will never understand but when it is rejected by democrat man will certainly feel the pain of it's absence.

midnightsstaff said...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-illegal-immigrant-kidney-transplant-20121209,0,3537821.story

I wonder when it comes my turn will the death panel make an exception for me?
Probably not.. after all I am not an illegal or a democrat man.

Rick Kepple said...

"But how can you be a Christian and hold such contempt for the rich only because you aren't one?"

Another assumption? I've known a rich rock star, who in her heyday made three million dollars a week and enjoyed making my life a living hell, but now wants to pretend she doesn't know me, because it's cheaper than asking for my forgiveness.

I gave the woman a chance to prove to me that she changed and I get you people instead telling me that I'm nuts. Again, more of her stupid fricking games.

Therefore, everyone in her income class is guilty. Everyone. She had her chance and she blew it.

Look at the world, Middy. People with all the compassion and caring of SN made this world what it is today. That's why there's so much homeless. So many rich people who would kill babies for a profit. Her life is an example for everyone to follow ... even me.

Want compassion from me? Get it from SN for the rich. I've got none that I can afford for wealthy folks. They've got the means to be decent humans and they don't want to be.

midnightsstaff said...

as I said.

Rick Kepple said...

"as I said."

Exactly. I've got rich friends. They discuss their ideas with me and I make suggestions and occasionally do some writing for them. I made a bag of guitar picks once for doing some PR for a dot com company.

And yes Middy, you said the same thing I did, but I just did it with more class, except for a typo that destroyed the entire rant! But not as bad as some writer who puts a typo in the headline; actually, that's the editor who that writer pissed off and it's called payback. Not in this case; my mystake.

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